Please read Ellie's last diary carefully before discussing.

Nobody was expecting The Last Of Us II to have two protagonists you can play as. For about 12-hours, you play as Ellie in her path to find Abby and get revenge on Joel's death. Then you switch on to Abby and learn a little bit more about her side of things. Although most players stop enjoying the game when Abby's part starts, someone on Reddit argues that Ellie's role is so dull, and you have to put so much effort into finding Abby while equipped with the worst weapons, and you also have to solve a lot of time-consuming puzzles. They are not the only ones to think this way, as other Redditors responded in the same post, saying that Abby gets the best sections in the game, like the Rat King boss fight.

Back in April, some of the game's cutscene leaked and revealed significant plot points. One thing that players learned from these leaks was Joel's death.

Joes was the first game protagonist, so fans spent a whole game in his shoes, which made them attached to him and his relationship with Ellie. However, the first's game final scene shows a very violent and out-of-control side of Joel. A certain Redditor thinks this last moment justifies Joel's horrible death in the sequel.

I spent a lot of time trash talking about The Last of Us Part 2 in this website because I thought it was one of the worst gaming experiences in my life but after hearing Troy Baker supporting NFTs and being an ass to everyone who disagrees with him, I guess I can finally say that Joel deserved to die by the hands of Abby.

I know it's unfair to compare a character with its own voice actor but if I'm being honest, Troy has played himself with almost every character he has performed in his career,

I can't believe I am saying but I think I will give this game a second chance at some point in the future to see if I can enjoy it, now that I don't care about Joel and Ellie's characters anymore. I apologize for every harsh thing I said in this wiki. I am very happy that you guys enjoyed the game.

We already know about the major ones that we see like Boston , Pittsburgh , Seattle & hear about other ones like Atlanta , Denver , Hartford and minor ones like Springfield , Woods Hole , Providence.

What would make a city become a QZ is it just population based ? Is it based on important cities like Major cities & capital cities ? Like I live in Michigan would it be more likely that they had QZs for the like top 5 largest cities in the state ? Or would it just be a few in like Grand Rapids , Lansing , & Detroit being our most important & largest cities ? . I would love to have a discussion on this topic

( I found a map of the 100 most important US cities would this be close to where QZs would be ? )

Title pretty much says it all; I fully enjoyed the little semi-open world section that we had in TLOU2 with Ellie, and since then I've wondered if a game like TLOU could manage to do something similar to this in the same style as maybe Infamous: Second Son or perhaps something more akin to a Witcher map. Would this even be plausible on a concept and/or development level?

As much as I dislike Abby, I wouldnt mind some DLC that covers what happened with her and Lev and the escape attempt from the Rattlers.

It could start of in the compound ( as a now skinny and weak Abby ), you have to do certain things to escape, like find certain items while you are out picking tomatoes that will help you pick a lock or something, then we get to roam around Santa Barbera for a bit, we could learn a bit more about Lev and Abby, kill some infected, and then the Rattlers come, we could get to kill a few of them before the big dude and that little asswipe capture us and send us to the pillars. They could even create a character who helps with the escape and joins us but ends up getting killed.

The Santa Barb area looked great in the game and I really wanted to know more about the Rattlers, so this would be the perfect DLC for me.

What would you like to see?

I get they have sprouted up in Seattle due to the rain and floods but aint California known for being hot and dry? so much so that the infected down that area have sun burn. Was it a dev oversight?

If Shamblers evolve due to rain then the UK must be a breeding ground for them lol

It’s something I’ve always been curious about and after hearing the Scars say “ I am one of thousands “ right before you execute them made me really wonder how many could there realistically be ? , Yara says there are about 1000 on the island with half being trained in combat to some point . I read that the WLF moved all the citizens of the QZ who weren’t scars into the stadium and their total population numbered in the thousands , how is that possible ? You have to have a lot of people to round up thousands right ? We also hear that only remnants of the Fireflies exist in Catalina numbering only around 200 but don’t hear how many were in Boston or Salt Lake City . In a zombie apocalypse you’d think numbers would be much lower but I might just not know wtf I’m talking about so what do you guys think about this ?

I am looking forward to this so much that I am purposely avoiding any and all news on it, I do not even know what streaming platform it will be launching on, All I know so far is that oberyn martell is playing Joel.

They HAVE to keep the first games theme music, to the note! that music was perfect.

Please do not take creative liberties with the infected, do not give them new powers or created a whole new type of infected.

I would like to see them NOT use stalkers as they didnt make sense to me in games

Please do not rub Ellies sexuality in our face, not in the first season at least. In the first game it was never a thing, and rightly so because she was 14 years old, no adult wants to sit there and ponder a 14 year olds sexuality, it is creepy. We live in a PC world these days so I am hoping they show restraint and not focus on the fact she is a lesbian, it is really not needed to drive the story forward.

Do the characters justice, make them the same as they are in the game.

Please include my favourite encounter in the game, the hunters in the hotel in Pittsberg.

What would ruin/make the series great for you?

What happened to Europe?

I hope the TV show will live up to how good the game is, tbfh. This game stuck to me and is definitely one of the best ones I've played yet. I'm excited for the show, because maybe the game would get more exposure that way (?).

Anyways, I don't wanna expect the worst, and I'm hyped.

We all know that HBO along with Naughty Dog are creating the Last of Us Tv Show so what’re your, thoughts,expectations,hopes,and worries about the future show?

After the shitshow that is COVID (and still is), I think the writers had is spot with the story line. Even if the Fireflies were to successfully create a vaccine, propagating it around the world and ridding it of disease and the human factionism is going to be a tall order. There will be non-believers of the vaccine (won't get vaccinated), do anything to prevent it from being distributed, or just believe that it is NOT going to save humanity. Whether it be for political, ideological, personal, or religious reasons rolling out a cure is nigh on impossible.

The whole game, I felt tense when it was meeting or fighting other people (Winter chapters) but NEVER the zombiies. Crazy Bill was right about who to fear.

Ellie's death even if a vaccine was to be created would be all for naught because humanity cannot save it from itself. If I knew I had the antibodies, I wouldn't sacrifice myself for humanity... its a lost cause.

The troops in Seattle are Marines, not soldiers since the Abrams tank is a Marine tank. This would also mean that Lt. Torres' affiliation should be changed to Marine Lieutenant, not Army.

The ending of tlou 2 was pretty open and left alot of room in terms of whats coming next. What are your thoughts on what to expect with tlou3 or where do you want the story to go?

I was justing thinking, what if abby came back with the fireflies and tried to start confrontaion with all of jackson?

Or maybe ellie feeling alone leaves jackson and searches for abby and the fireflies to join them and try to find a cure again?