what is  this even all about this has no point no matter what anybody says 

Hey guys ever read Talk:Ellie it says:*In Left Behind Ellie kisses Riley, which at first caused much debate on her sexuality; NaughyDog has officially stated that she is Bisexual. So in a way she is gay but not really. i dont know if i should say YAY or not say anything lol.

Druckmann has stated, directly, that she's gay. 

I mean..... I don't care one way or another what she is, but I don't see why a quote from a writer is the end all be all. I could easily pull up a quote from her VA saying "maybe she is, maybe she's not."

Don't know why you're so insecure about it.

who cares what he says naughty dog knows more it is there game so get over it

You know he was director and writer of the game, right?

The VA of Ellie is only responsible for voicing the lines. Druckmann imagined and wrote up the character in the first place; he has authority over this more than Ashley Johnson in terms of story.

It's not about "insecurity", it's about laying out the facts. You can wave a piece of paper in my face and tell me that it is a ball until the cows come home, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a piece of paper.

Why are YOU so insecure about a plot point that was clarified and cleared up by the director and storyboarders years ago? See? You don't like how childish that sounds? Don't do it to other users on this wiki.

</div> The VA of Ellie is only responsible for voicing the lines. Druckmann imagined and wrote up the character in the first place; he has authority over this more than Ashley Johnson in terms of story.

It's not about "insecurity", it's about laying out the facts. You can wave a piece of paper in my face and tell me that it is a ball until the cows come home, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a piece of paper.

Why are YOU so insecure about a plot point that was clarified and cleared up by the director and storyboarders years ago? See? You don't like how childish that sounds? Don't do it to other users on this wiki. </div>

You don't know anything about what Druckmann actually did on the character or what authority he had so cut the holier than thou crap. Actors and voice actors are well known to have plenty of say in who or what their character is. For God sakes, Rick and Morty, South Park, and Family Guy were started by the guys who also happen to voice the vast majority of the characters on their respective shows.

You're "facts" have consisted of a single quote by a guy of whom you have no idea how much control he had. I could just as easily spin up a couple reasons why Ellie may not be gay just from the actual game(who the hell steals a gay porn magazine just for the hell of it?) or Ashley Johnson's quote and have just as much credibility as you.

Considering you've oversaturated this thread with comments striking down any opinion that disagrees with you, the only person that could be viewed as out of line on this wiki is you. You're the one that's getting angsty about this years later. Not me. Grow up for once.

my god who cares everybody has there own sayings you have to complain because you do not agree with one another    i dont care we all still like ellie no matter what

You clearly care; otherwise you wouldn't have necroed a dead topic that has been discussed to death for the umpteenth time. As to why it's important, two reasons. First, declaring Ellie to be straight--or claiming that her sexuality doesn't matter--is a mightily convenient thing to say for one of the only LGBTQ characters. It's LGBTQ erasure in a game chock full of straight characters. Ever notice how literally no one on the planet jumps to their keyboards the moment a character is revealed to be straight with lines like "I think he's actually gay" or "it doesn't matter!!!!111///"? Secondly, I can't find your claim that Naughty Dog "confirmed" that Ellie is bi. The closest I've found is who cares?--from the game director Bruce Straley.

Random fandom user, you don't get to dismiss primary sources. That's now how laying out arguments work. Johnson received instruction from Druckmann on how to portray the character, not the other way round. Just because VAs have opinions on their characters (since they, you know, voice them for years it's kind of inevitable) doesn't make them 100% acceptable sources. In the holy quote from Johnson you keep bringing up, she merely states that "it does not matter" to her; in an ideal world, people wouldn't be fantasizing and freaking out so much about a fictional 14 year old's sexuality. This wiki's visitors have, disappointingly, overwhelmingly demonstrated to the contrary. You people literally will not stop bringing up Ellie's sexuality, regardless of how long the game has been out.

Considering how Druckmann was given full artistic license over how to develop the story, it's actually laughable to call into question whether he had a leadership role in planning said story. 

I don't speak for all in the LGBTQ community, but I'm getting sick and tired of the "omg this character might not be gay/is confused/is just going through a phase/totally still fits in my straight fanfic" line of thought. As Straley and Johnson have both stated, it ought not to matter, but people like you insist on continually necroing it.

I'm closing this thread to prevent such necros again; I should have done it years ago. If either of you have anything new to say (please note, new), message me on my wall.