Just wondering, is that quote at the top of the page there a misquote, or was what she said in-game different from what she said in the trailer?
Here it says "After everything we've been through. Everything I've done... It can't have been for nothing."
But in the trailer, it's "after all we've been through, everything that I've done... it can't be for nothing."
- The quote on the page is wrong. I'll fix it now. Thanks for the heads up. --Klock101 (talk) 04:57, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
Was her scar on her right eyebrow ever explained?
I just left this on the trivia, prove me wrong if you can.
Anna and EllieEdit
I'd like a second opinion on this before I edit Ellie and Anna's biography - the Note from Mom in Ellie's backpack seems to suggest that Anna left her in Marlene's care before she was "even a day old" - the way she wrote the letter kind of makes it sound like she died shortly after giving birth, and Ellie was never raised by her mother.
Another interpretation of it is just that Anna knew her life would be cut short at the time she gave birth to Ellie, but she wasn't dying right that moment, and Ellie received that letter from Marlene after her mother died. Thoughts? - Karen (talk) * (profile) 09:33, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Either way, Ellie never got to know her mom; she only heard stories from Marlene and probably others. Anna may have been dying from blood loss, or could have even been just recently bitten by an infected. Unlikely, I know, but possible. M67PattonZippo (talk) 11:52, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, the part I was looking to revise was this line: "For a time she was raised by her mother, Anna, then after the death of her mother, Marlene continued to look after her, a promise she made to her mother, Anna."
Ellie's ability to transfer InfectionEdit
While I am well aware this has likly been discussed or at least has a chat page somewhere, I figured I would ask a brief question regarding Ellies ability to infect others as it is in some ways relevant to her character and is worthy of discussion.
We know Ellie can infect another Human by biting them and those of us who have finished the story know what happens towards the end of the game.
I have however been wondering about other ways one human could infect another and how it would relate to Ellie being immune, but also a carrier. It has basically got me wondering as to how it would effect her life should she find someone she becomes very affectionate with as she gets older.
Is it a case of she would be able to enjoy a relativly normal relationship provided she is careful i.e. She is capable of still reproducing as well as sharing simple pleasures like a kiss, or is it a case of she will only be able to live a life with very similar difficulties that we see in scenario's such as that of Rogue in X-Men (I am well aware she can still touch but its an easy way to give of the general idea).
I only really ask this question as we see evidence saying its the exchange of fluid and it is usually a bite, however I was wondering as to whether transference would only occur if any of her infection manages to get directly into the bloodstream of the other human.
184.108.40.206 16:12, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
Where does she infect another human with her bite? Just finished the game and i didn't notice.
220.127.116.11 14:51, November 2, 2015 (UTC)Anon
- She (possibly) infects David after she bites him while she is in the jail cell. Then she says something to the effect of "I'm Infected... and so are you." I don't remember if she broke his finger before or after she bit him, though. M67PattonZippo (talk) 17:12, November 2, 2015 (UTC)
Ellie's life before she met Joel is a little confusing - on the page it says she 'grew up in an oppressive military quarantine zone in Boston' but then under the 'American Dreams' section it says that she arrives in Boston when she's 14. Are the comics (or parts of them) not considered canon? I'd like to hear thoughts on this and possible explanations...18.104.22.168 02:20, July 27, 2013 (UTC)K
- The comics are considered 100% canon. They were written by Neil Druckmann, who also wrote the game's plot. The problem's in the article, it's not writtem very clearly. --Klock101 (talk) 03:40, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
Ellie's jokes Edit
Could we move that section onto a separate page? Something titled "List of Ellie's jokes," maybe? The section's current position makes the article look sloppy and super long; shortening it would be a wise alternative. --Regularon *talk* ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ 20:45, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Moved to That's All I Got. I had tagged this page for cleanup recently, but someone removed the template before the article was cleaned up :-/ --Klock101 (talk) 03:59, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
Ellie's Song Edit
Is it okay to mention Ellie's Song by Emma Hallows in the Trivia section?
- I don't know who she is, and I'm assuming she had nothing to do with the game and her song was solely made to express her love of The Last of Us, so no don't add it onto the trivia section. --Regularon *talk* ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ 15:13, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
*In Left Behind Ellie kisses Riley, which at first caused much debate on her sexuality; NaughyDog has officially stated that she is Bisexual.
- Can you add a reference or quote wherein the Naughty Dog official states that Ellie is bisexual, please? Lily Ford (talk) 13:08, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
- Ellies a lesbian they said it in http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ykno8/hi_were_neil_druckmann_creative_director_and/cflhcbi?context=3
The page currently says that Ellie is born somewhere late 2018 or early 2019 (lacking a source, by the way).
It should be noted that if Ellie is born in the winter (November - February) that means that she is 14 at the start of the game, but turns 15 somewhere during or after the events in the winter chapter, but definitely before they reach Salt Lake City.
Is there a better source for her birthday somewhere?
22.214.171.124 17:23, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
- Probably going on the assumption of American Dreams' timeline. TPShadowDragon Born into flame! 21:42, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
- IIRC, there is a specific quote where Ellie says Marlene told her she was born when "the first leaves fall". That would suggest she turns 15 some time around their arrival in Jackson County or during the journey to UEC.
- BenRG - Not sure if he dreads or longs for Episode VII (talk) 15:48, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
If she is 'mature beyond her years' does that make her mentally 15 and 16 then? talk2ty 01:00, October 27, 2015 (UTC)
- I guess so. She did have to mentally grow up faster than a normal teenager would have. M67PattonZippo (talk) 01:42, October 27, 2015 (UTC)
Should we have a section on the Ellie page where it lists who and how many people Ellie has killed? I know she killed at least 4 people in cutscenes them being David, James, the Hunter that was drowning Joel and the Cannibal that was trying to take their horse. I think it would be helpful to detail who and how many characters each of the characters have killed to show what they have done on this journey. The Walking Dead Wiki has a section for how many and which characters a character has killed for each one for example this page on Clementine: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Clementine_(Video_Game)
I was thinking we could do this for all the characters.
- Hmm, maybe we could but then we would just be putting "Possibly numerous counts of Infected/Survivors" for the majority of characters anyway. It seems a little pointless to me to put it on all of them, making it odd to put it on just Joel and Ellie's page, but I see the point you're making. Maybe if there had been more personal kills among the other characters I could see it working. Snivystorm (talk) 11:26, August 10, 2016 (UTC)
- I remember some user from TWDW trying to add that stuff here, I kept reverting it pointing out how it's not TWDW. The thing is, there's not really enough notable kills in the game to list, plus I'm not a big fan of it anyway because surely the kills are already detailed in the character's biography anyway. Riley Heligo The Forgotten Sinner 12:21, August 10, 2016 (UTC)
Well sorry for the late reply, to speak in my defense, this list idea I am proposing makes it saw you can tell really quickly shorthand who the characters have killed rather than have to scan through the page.
I can list the characters they killed in CUTSCENES so it's canon no matter what regarding the deaths. Joel killed (in order) Mr. Cooper, the male soldier that held him, Tess, and Ellie up, the hunter that he hit with the truck, the two cannibals he interrogated, Ethan and then finally Marlene. That's seven people and those are just the ones he killed cutscene wise not including the ones he killed in scripted gameplay scenes. Ellie killed (just to reiliterate) the hunter that was drowning Joel, the hunter that tried to take their horse, James, then finally David. Tess killed Robert, Ramirez, the first clicker that attacks Joel and a runner that bite her. So that's 4 people at least for each character I just listed and after you list those people you could add at the bottom "numerous counts of surivors and infected" for each character. That's what they did for TWDW is they listed all the main people they killed then they put that they also killed numerous counts of walkers and surivors.
This game puts a huge emphasis on the whole "having to kill to survive" thing so I feel like this idea would be helpful to readers and players to show what each character is made of and what they had to do to get there.
- I understand where you're going with this but the problem lies in how most of those characters with canon deaths have no name, so we would just be listing "Hunter, Two cannibals" and so on. There also isn't really much we could put for the other characters in the game either, so it seems rather out of place to only have it on two articles. That's just my view though. Snivystorm (talk) 19:36, August 11, 2016 (UTC)
- Alright, just thought it'd be really cool and essential. Anyways I got a new idea for the wiki which is a poll to make rejected ideas accepted ideas. Here's how it'd work, there'd be multiple polls for ever 4 rejected ideas and people would vote on which of the 4 to bring back and accept. This wiki gets new players and readers every so often so I was thinking the new people in addition to the old my approve of some of the rejects. After all, some people at least supported them for the ideas to even be proposed in the first place. Bart Mick (talk) 11:54, August 12, 2016 (UTC)
Infobox Photo Edit
There is some dispute at the moment about whether Ellie's infobox image should be updated based on the Part II trailer. My suggestion is that we have seperate tabs for the two bits of character art. For now, the part I picture should be the default. I think that this is especially necessary as the character model may be refined a little during the production process of the game and there is no guarantee that the teaser Ellie will closely resemble the final product.
- Indeed, it's early days to rush to change the infobox image, I feel at least. Once we have a more definite full image that displays her whole body and/or is confirmed to be certain that such is how Ellie will appear in the game, then we can change the image. Otherwise, there'd just be a constant to and fro of switching said images around. Snivystorm (talk) 14:37, December 5, 2016 (UTC)
- Until the second game is actually released, I wouldn't change the image. We do not know for certain if her appearance will not be changed when the game is actually issued. Also, at the present time, the best-known and most recognizable image of her is that from the first game. Even after #2 is released I'd still recommend an image of her from the first game be kept, with an image of the older Ellie added further down next to any plot/character discussion related to the second game. 23skidoo (talk) 04:05, June 29, 2017 (UTC)
- As I mentioned down below, we need to stay updated with the most current incarnation of Ellie. While I agree that the reveal trailer image of her isn't quite fitting for an infobox just yet, it would probably be best to wait until a better image of her is released to update the infobox. Creating separate tabs between her 14-year-old and 19-year-old-self is unnecessary. NinjaFatGuy (talk) 17:10, June 29, 2017 (UTC)
As I've done with Joel, I still reckon we should at least have an image of them from a cutscene on the first game, given the game one is a tad big and is from in game. 1 provides a good closeup of her face and 2 has her facing the article and is bright enough to make out, granted 1 is a tad too close and her mouth is slightly open in 2, which may be distracting. Thoughts? Snivystorm (talk) 08:59, July 3, 2017 (UTC)
Age in introEdit
I adjusted the age given for Ellie in the intro, which someone had put as 19. Although it is known that she is going to be either 18 or 19 in the second game, at the present time the only age given for her on screen is 14 in the first game, and she's even younger in the comic book. I reworded it to say that she's 14 when first encountered. That covers off the first game and future-proofs against further aging (i.e. she might be 19 in the next game, and then if there is a third game she'll be older yet). 23skidoo (talk) 04:03, June 29, 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah we gotta work out a system for that, perhaps just noting the age difference in game? So reference both ages for their repetitive games in the intro. Snivystorm (talk) 14:55, June 29, 2017 (UTC)
- We have to keep the article as updated as we can. The summary paragraph is to represent who she is currently, so 19-years-old is the best fit. Her other ages in other games/media is noted in her infobox and in her respective sections in her biography. However, the summary is to remain the most current version of Ellie to stay updated with the series' canon. NinjaFatGuy (talk) 17:02, June 29, 2017 (UTC)
- For what it's worth to people (i.e., nothing), Ellie is a character in TLOU. She is not a chatacter in a game that hasn't been released, acted, scriped, or pubicly storyboarded. Her appearance might change frtom the trailer. In theory, TLOU II might even be canceled.
- This isn't the bio of a real person, for whom the oldest age they've ever been seen (19) is the youngest they could possibly be. When google points people here because they ask "who is Ellie in TLOU," they want to know about the girl in the game that everybody plays, the one with all the forums about it, the one you can read about in Wired. If they see a screen shot and want to know more, they should come here and see the girl they inquired about.
- Ellie is a character in a video game, and until she is in another game, the video game she is in, is TLOU. In it she is 14. She should stay 14 here until the day TLOU II is on sale. Then, there should be TWO pictures of her.
Part II Infobox Portrait? Edit
The thumbnail for the Part II gameplay trailer would do nicely as the content of a Part II infobox character art tab. Any of the admins agree?
- I agree. Now that the Hype Train is picking up speed, we need to start updating things. M67PattonZippo (talk) 11:10, June 13, 2018 (UTC)
- Indeed we do. The articles have to reflect the upcoming changes. But there are a few questions we have to address. First, are we going to do the dual portrait - one showing her appearance in the first game and one as is in the upcoming sequel? Second, are we are going to use her appearance as in the cinematics or via in game rendering as her and Joel's article currently reflect? Problem with the latter for me is that we'd have to do that with all of the characters - I can't see why their infobox portraits should be different to the rest of the characters. It is high time we updated the image policy to reflect what best fits on the character articles. We'll have to add some images and start a discussion below with the options we can make. Snivystorm (talk) 11:21, June 13, 2018 (UTC)