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  • Snivystorm
    Snivystorm closed this thread because:
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    08:06, September 11, 2017

    Hello everyone, and welcome. This is the place where all discussions about the character Joel may go. The comments section had to be removed due to abuse, so here is a better place to talk.

    This a general forum thread, so please talk about anything pertaining to Joel and keep it pleasant. That's not to say you cannot write dark, depressing things about him, just please don't be vulgar or profane.

    Think before you hit the "post" button because even though this is for general discussion, there are still rules (along with the site's rules) and they are as follows:

    -No posting of game ending or personal character spoilers.

    -Be mindful that something you say may have already be said, so look through the previous posts before reiterating something that's already been said.

    -Absolutely NO double-posting! If you wish to add something to what you previously said, simply edit your post and add to it.

    -Stay on topic to some degree. This is a general discussion, but we still have a topic to follow: Joel.

    As long as you follow these rules and the site's rules, then we can all enjoy some good conversation.

    Please, enjoy.

    Sethylamine, that red pyramid thing. 18:23, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

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    • there is a possibility that joel's personality is entirely up to the player, like the walking dead.

      we can't be sure yet, but it is possible.

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    • Well so far, it doesn't seem like their is any choice when it comes to character growth. For instance, you don't control Joel's dialogue because it's all scripted. So, of course, there's always a chance of it being dependant on the player's actions, but I don't see that being very likely. Though ideally that would be the case.

      Also, looking through more and more released photos of Joel, I haven noticed that he has very good trigger discipline. Even though he is just a fictional character that is drawn into a game, he still practices very good weapon discipline in all forms and it's quite impressive the detail put into this idea.

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    • question, will joel use that gas mask on his hip, or is it purely cosmetic?

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    • As far as we can tell, he uses it in places of high spore count. Pretty much whenever Bill wears his, I'm assuming Joel will throw his on. After all, there have been screenshots of Joel wearing it, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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    • cool

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    • Sure is. The only concern I have regarding that is that Ellie doesn't appear to have a mask, so I'm wondering if she just doesn't have it with her at all times or if she doesn't have one period.

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    • she might not even go through those spots where joel needs his mask, seeing that she's small, she might find a small crevice to bypass those areas. 

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    • That's another possibility.

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    • one more question, how do you unlock the pre order bonus costumes for elli and joel?

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    • You get codes on your recite after buying it

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    • I'm sure you meant "receipt", but yes, that is how you unlock them.

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    • Yeah sorry thats what I mean, typo

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    • i mean in game...

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    • Once you download them there will probally a extra's section in the main menue. 

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    • ok

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    • I think there is actually a way to do it while you're playing the game. I noticed something in a video that looked kind of like a shirt. Where you find the collectibles and the skills, I think it's around there.

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    • thanks, for the info and for being nice... :)

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    • Why would we not be nice?

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    • idk, some people on the other wikis that i scroll are total assholes

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    • Hmm. Odd. This is really the first Wiki I've ever been an active member of. Obviously I've used other Wikis to better understand games that I either plan to buy or am about to buy. However, I never actually payed any attention to the community behind any of them until this one. In fact, I didn't even know there was a community behind every Wiki.

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    • here's a question: if drake and joel got in a fight who would win? ( a fistfight, no guns or melee weapons.)

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    • Drake, no question. He is younger and more agile, where Joel is more worn and aged. Now, that being said, I don't see Drake being able to survive as long as Joel as in this type of scenario, so Joel has him beat there.

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    • i think drake can survive in this scenario, he's been through a lot of crazy things in his adventures. fought supernatural creatures, scaled a fort, climb back in a cargo plane in flight, and was able to go 3-4 days in the rub ai khali desert before being rescued.

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    • Yes, but he has never done anything persistently for 20 years. A few days of non-stop action is nothing like a few years of non-stop action followed by over a decade of barely getting by on a can of green beans and a bottle of water.

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    • A fight between Joel and Drake would be interesting to say the least. Joel seems like he's stronger but not as fast as Drake. But another thing you would have to consider that they come from two different games, two very different games. Uncharted was not the most realisitic of games. But if you were to really take both of them and disregard the fact that they comes from two different styles of games, It would be a very interesting match.

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    • Young and agile versus old and hardened. Hmm...yes.

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    • Sethylamine wrote:
      [...]

      Also, looking through more and more released photos of Joel, I haven noticed that he has very good trigger discipline. Even though he is just a fictional character that is drawn into a game, he still practices very good weapon discipline in all forms and it's quite impressive the detail put into this idea.

      Could Joel have been in  the military at some point?

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    • No sir. Or at least, there's no mention of it anywhere. Also, I do have a tiny bit of information that does make the military a very unlikely possibility. Since it does technically count as a spoiler (one that was forced on me by YouTube's recommended videos), I cannot post it on here. However, I can say with great confidence that he was not in the military, or if he was it was only for like a year. Probably less.

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    • Sethylamine wrote:
      No sir. Or at least, there's no mention of it anywhere. Also, I do have a tiny bit of information that does make the military a very unlikely possibility. Since it does technically count as a spoiler (one that was forced on me by YouTube's recommended videos), I cannot post it on here. However, I can say with great confidence that he was not in the military, or if he was it was only for like a year. Probably less.


      Hmm, interesting...

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    • Well I can say with certainty that Joel has a very sad past..But since no one really wants to know I will say no more. 

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    • It isn't that we don't want to know, persay, it's that you cannot tell us or risk being banned. Also, I know a little bit because I saw the first 8 seconds of the game before realizing I had stumbled upon a walkthrough and so I quickly switched off of it. Unfortunately, in those 8 seconds I immediately became saddened.

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    • That must mean.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................one hell of an opening!!

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    • I will say one thing, you will cry. Make sure you have tissues. That's it, no spoilers.

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    • So set the record straight, his name is JOEL not "Joul" I keep seeing someone going around changing posts to "Joul"

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    • It is in fact Joel.

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    • Thank you, if that guy is seeing this discussion then he better get it right, I dunno why but it annoys me to see someone make Joel's name into "Joul"

      How do they even do that?

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    • Eh, just someone who was convinced it was Joul. Don't worry about it, we'll change it.

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    • I'm kinda tired, I get short temper when I am. Thats why I am reacting so much.

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    • No problem. Just leave the problem to itself.

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    • TheGuyThatWasTheGuy wrote:
      So set the record straight, his name is JOEL not "Joul" I keep seeing someone going around changing posts to "Joul"

      Yeah, a Joule is a scientific unit. We had someone doing stuff like that on the Revolution wiki, Prometheus20. Kept changing 'article' to 'artical'.

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    • What is Joel occupation before the outbreak?

      i saw some house blueprint in his house (first chapter) 

      may be he is engineer or house broker or contractor or teacher?


      and how old is he at the end? 50? 

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    • He is described as in his late 40's, so I would say 48.

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    • And he seems to work on civil construction, so contractor, most likely... Right?

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    • lets see, lets assume that joel had sarah when he was 17 it says he had her in his teenage years. when the game starts sarah is 12 so that would make joel 29, the 20 year time skip would make him 49 and the game takes place over a year so he would be 50 at the end

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    • Yeah, by the end of the game we're not really sure if Joel just turned 50, (we just interpretate it like that), so that could work.

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    • Sethylamine wrote:
      I will say one thing, you will cry. Make sure you have tissues. That's it, no spoilers.

      I had a bowl of chips, It turned into a lake...  :'(

      It was one of the saddest game openings I have seen in a long time....(Not trying to be dramatic)...

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    • guys, I think Joel is at least 50 years old. Think about it. The game takes place 20 years after his birthday. If Sarah is 12 years old, then at his youngest Joel would have had to have been at least 30 years old (30-12 is 18). He couldn't have been any younger unless he had underaged sex

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    • making him at least 31 in the prologue and around 51-52 by the end of the game

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    • Sarah is 14, and Joel was in mid/late 40's in the game, after prologue,

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    • You can't confirm that Sarah is 14. She is about 13, and Joel is in his late 40s/early 50s.

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    • Can you prove she's 13? They describe her as a young-ish teen so I would say 13 or 14. But I lean towards 14.

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    • I'm curious

      I'n the trivia section,  it says Joel is implied to have smoked marijuana before the outbreak during an optional conversation

      I found almost all the optional conversations and never picked up on this. Could someone please fill me in.

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    • Bandicoot.95 wrote:
      here's a question: if drake and joel got in a fight who would win? ( a fistfight, no guns or melee weapons.)

      Joel. He hits hard!

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    • @ WatteWatt

      I'm not sure if this was the specific refrence, but at one point in Pittsburgh Joel gets nostalgic over a coffee machine and says he used to go to coffee shops all the time. Ellie questions him about it and when he says he went there for "just coffee" in a rather evasive tone, you sort of get the implication that he might have meant drugs. This would coincide with the fad of stoner dives which would have been popular when Joel was in his teens.

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    • I think Sarah is around 12. She seems very young in her looks and 14 is pushing it too much. And damn! Joel on drugs? That is what i call bad-ass.

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    • Sounds a tad bit like Max Payne o.o

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    • Drake vs. Joel. Drake gets the jump on Joel and has him pinned. In my opinion Ellie and Joel never seperate. Drake sees Ellie and hesitates (or Ellie throws a bottle at him lol) Joel throws him off and brutally kills him. Joel wouldn't hesitate; Drake would. Hopefully if Drake Restrained himself Ellie would make Joel Spare him. But Joel is brutal enough to be the winner. In my opinion :D

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    • G.I JOE 95 wrote:
      Sounds a tad bit like Max Payne o.o

      Nah, according to "A Day In The Life Of Max Payne," everybody he ever loved has died.

      I never actually played the games, but I would suggest that parody video. Hilarious whether or not you played them.

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    • Joel is one hench guy, even before the outbreak.

      How would he get like that, apart from his genes? Dem forearms tho.

      Also I know he works in carpentry, so that probably maintains his body. Also does cardio, which we all know kills gains (hueuhe)

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    • ^ I agree Joel is buff:D!

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    • The mass on him though, haha. 

      He musta ate a lot, but again, he seemed to get fit.

      Lucky for him, that sure helped him survive.

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    • Joel is like in his late 40s and early 50s but he move and fight  like a 20 or 30 something year old!!:D I wouldn't be surprise if he lived up to 100.:)

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    • Well yeah he would probably live for hundred years since all he did everyday is run,walk,fight,and there's no ice cream break for this guy even if he's a grandpa,so I'm sure as hell that he would live to 90 or 100 years old.

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    • Haha, he's one intense guy. 

      He's lucky he had the headstart of already being pretty strong before the outbreak. Hell, they must have had a good supply of food/drugs for him to maintain that strength. The perks of being a smuggler eh

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    • 125.161.35.173 wrote:
      Well yeah he would probably live for hundred years since all he did everyday is run,walk,fight,and there's no ice cream break for this guy even if he's a grandpa,so I'm sure as hell that he would live to 90 or 100 years old.

      Well, i guess that it is possible that he could die of sickness. And they don't have the healthiest food in the Quarantine Zones.

      So i guess that he would reach 85 or something like that.

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    • Yeah I guess 90 yrs old would be the oldest age for him but I think after he died,Ellie could take care of herself nicely cause when he died,Ellie probably already turned somekind of like 29 or 30 maybe,so I'm sure she would be good by herself as long as she wanted to move along the live and maybe found someone that is caring to her like Joel used to be for her....

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